From uucp Fri Aug 14 11:59:42 1981 remote from pur-ee NAharpo.423 Nfa.unix-wizards Npur-ee!cincy!duke!decvax!ucbvax!mhtsa!harpo!ber NThu Aug 13 23:31:58 1981 NYAUF NGee whiz. Bitch bitch bitch. There is better documentation than Nmanual pages provided with your unix system. The manual page Nis a brief description of a command, routine or concept. It's a starting Npoint, and frequently enough. If you want to know more, look at the source. N NI think the page for lorder is terrific. I never use lorder for anything Nother than ordering libraries, and to have an example right there is great. N NAll this crap about UNIX being unfriendly and UNIX lacking documentation Nand so on is just that. UNIX is an operating system. It's clean, concise, Nand clear (at least traditionally). The beauty of the environment that Ngenerally surrounds a unix is that it is easilly growable by the people Nthat use it. If some turkey writes a poor manual page, then unix is blamed. NLook at all the crap you have to deal with at IH because they won't permit Na public directory for NON-STANDARD this and that. Well I guess they want Nto make sure nobody polutes their system. That stinks. But that's the only Nway your going to censor it. At least you can point your finger directly Nat the computer center staff. N NIf you don't like a command or documentation your free to avoid it. NOr better yet, improve it! Unix provides an excellent program development Nenvironment. If you can't figure out what a syntax error is, ask someone. NYou'll find dozens of experts in every hallway. Why? Because it's relatively Neasy to comprehend. N NPlease don't start restricting creativity with naming standards and style Nstandards and how many lines are permitted in a subroutine ... NThat's almost tolerable for a project, but unix isn't a number 7 electronic Nsump pump. Just because management feels that 'C' and UNIX are the do-all Nto end-all doesn't make it so. And the attempts to fit that misconception Nare ruining a perfectly good environment. N NWhy don't you send your comments to the MINI-SYSTEM newsletter in the Nform of a modification request? I'ld like to see an OFFICIAL response. N N(deep breath) N NNow I feel better. Let's face it, unix is not geared to the naive user. NSo what? It's great for the knowledgable user. Why bring the level Nof excellence down to least common denominator? For a profit! Yeh well Nthat's another story. But let's try to raise the level of the users.